Comments on: Short URL’s Are Entertainingly Out of Control http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2009/12/short-urls-are-entertainingly-out-of-control.html Tue, 14 Feb 2012 01:23:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Rick Fran http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2009/12/short-urls-are-entertainingly-out-of-control.html/comment-page-1#comment-26304 Rick Fran Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:58:17 +0000 http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2009/12/short-urls-are-entertainingly-out-of-control.html#comment-26304 As a result of the rapid rise in Twitter we have also seen a massive explosion in URL shortening sites and yes we also own one as well <a href="http://www.twurlit.com" target="_blank">http://www.twurlit.com</a> its new i wont hide that fact but alot of these sites will fall by the wayside over time. Rick Admin @ <a href="http://www.twurlit.com" target="_blank">http://www.twurlit.com</a> As a result of the rapid rise in Twitter we have also seen a massive explosion in URL shortening sites and yes we also own one as well http://www.twurlit.com its new i wont hide that fact but alot of these sites will fall by the wayside over time.

Rick Admin @ http://www.twurlit.com

]]> By: replcia handbags http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2009/12/short-urls-are-entertainingly-out-of-control.html/comment-page-1#comment-32347 replcia handbags Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:47:51 +0000 http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2009/12/short-urls-are-entertainingly-out-of-control.html#comment-32347 A very good article, I will always come in. A very good article, I will always come in.

]]> By: @mutualmind http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2009/12/short-urls-are-entertainingly-out-of-control.html/comment-page-1#comment-32078 @mutualmind Mon, 22 Feb 2010 04:37:33 +0000 http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2009/12/short-urls-are-entertainingly-out-of-control.html#comment-32078 Brad - here is my take on the situation of short URLs. <a href="http://mutualmind.com/blog/2010/02/the-long-future-of-short-urls/" rel="nofollow">http://mutualmind.com/blog/2010/02/the-long-futur...</a> From a social media analytics angle, all this fragmentation and 'control' is a hindrance for businesses to get the insights they need. Babar Brad – here is my take on the situation of short URLs.
http://mutualmind.com/blog/2010/02/the-long-futur…

From a social media analytics angle, all this fragmentation and 'control' is a hindrance for businesses to get the insights they need.

Babar

]]> By: Eze http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2009/12/short-urls-are-entertainingly-out-of-control.html/comment-page-1#comment-30843 Eze Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:49:35 +0000 http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2009/12/short-urls-are-entertainingly-out-of-control.html#comment-30843 I personally use <a href="http://sl.ly" target="_blank">http://sl.ly</a> and like the option of adding a + to the end of the URL for a preview. There is a huge list of shorteners at <a href="http://shortnit.com" target="_blank">http://shortnit.com</a> if your interested. More than 350... I personally use http://sl.ly and like the option of adding a + to the end of the URL for a preview. There is a huge list of shorteners at http://shortnit.com if your interested.
More than 350…

]]> By: @charlieok http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2009/12/short-urls-are-entertainingly-out-of-control.html/comment-page-1#comment-30764 @charlieok Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:56:23 +0000 http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2009/12/short-urls-are-entertainingly-out-of-control.html#comment-30764 This might be something the web standards bodies and browser makers could deal with. A document containing a link could provide a hint that this is just an "intermediate" link, and it will return a redirect response giving the "real link". That has the advantage of being the actual behavior of all those shorturl links in existence today, already. The HTML standard has a "rel" attribute that can give extra information about links: <a href="http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/links.html" target="_blank">http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work...</a> None of the existing options seem to fit ("prefetch" comes close...). Maybe a new one is in order. How about "redirect", meaning the author of the document expects that this link is just a redirect. A browser could elect to resolve that link when it loads the page, so that (say) the user sees the real link in mouse hover text. None of that deals with short links that disappear though. Maybe we could add a way of recording a real link in metadata belonging to a short link. This might be useful if some consumer of tweets wanted to recover that information and reattach it to the links... This might be something the web standards bodies and browser makers could deal with. A document containing a link could provide a hint that this is just an "intermediate" link, and it will return a redirect response giving the "real link".

That has the advantage of being the actual behavior of all those shorturl links in existence today, already.

The HTML standard has a "rel" attribute that can give extra information about links:
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work…

None of the existing options seem to fit ("prefetch" comes close…). Maybe a new one is in order. How about "redirect", meaning the author of the document expects that this link is just a redirect. A browser could elect to resolve that link when it loads the page, so that (say) the user sees the real link in mouse hover text.

None of that deals with short links that disappear though. Maybe we could add a way of recording a real link in metadata belonging to a short link. This might be useful if some consumer of tweets wanted to recover that information and reattach it to the links…

]]> By: Charlie http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2009/12/short-urls-are-entertainingly-out-of-control.html/comment-page-1#comment-30761 Charlie Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:13:26 +0000 http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2009/12/short-urls-are-entertainingly-out-of-control.html#comment-30761 Sign of the apocalypse right there :) Sign of the apocalypse right there :)

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]]> By: Brad Feld http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2009/12/short-urls-are-entertainingly-out-of-control.html/comment-page-1#comment-19493 Brad Feld Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:24:05 +0000 http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2009/12/short-urls-are-entertainingly-out-of-control.html#comment-19493 Definitely a problem.  It looks like I’ve either got this configured incorrectly in Tweetmeme OR there’s a bug in how it sends stuff to the RSS feed.  Either way, thanks for the heads up – I’ll poke around.<br /> Definitely a problem.  It looks like I’ve either got this configured incorrectly in Tweetmeme OR there’s a bug in how it sends stuff to the RSS feed.  Either way, thanks for the heads up – I’ll poke around.

]]> By: Chris Walters http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2009/12/short-urls-are-entertainingly-out-of-control.html/comment-page-1#comment-19475 Chris Walters Mon, 21 Dec 2009 06:53:41 +0000 http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2009/12/short-urls-are-entertainingly-out-of-control.html#comment-19475 Brad, just an FYI, not sure why this happens but when clicking the 'retweet' button from your RSS feed in my Outlook @bfeld isn't mentioned... here's the actual retweet msg... RT @tweetmeme Short URL’s Are Entertainingly Out of Control <a href="http://bit.ly/8ijv4D" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/8ijv4D</a> When using the 'retweet' button from your site its this: RT @bfeld Short URL’s Are Entertainingly Out of Control <a href="http://fndry.gr/1140w" target="_blank">http://fndry.gr/1140w</a> Twitter handles and URL's are different? Feature or Problem? CW Brad, just an FYI, not sure why this happens but when clicking the 'retweet' button from your RSS feed in my Outlook @bfeld isn't mentioned… here's the actual retweet msg…

RT @tweetmeme Short URL’s Are Entertainingly Out of Control http://bit.ly/8ijv4D

When using the 'retweet' button from your site its this:

RT @bfeld Short URL’s Are Entertainingly Out of Control http://fndry.gr/1140w

Twitter handles and URL's are different? Feature or Problem?

CW

]]> By: @connectme http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2009/12/short-urls-are-entertainingly-out-of-control.html/comment-page-1#comment-19464 @connectme Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:40:28 +0000 http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2009/12/short-urls-are-entertainingly-out-of-control.html#comment-19464 On a more serious note Brooklyn has its own short URL - bk.ly. The problem is the designers copied bit.ly too closely without thinking about local info navigation. An example is that all of bk.ly's results are all hashes. For example, when dealing with Brooklyn restaurant Rose Water, I argue bk.ly/rosewater is superior to bk.ly/bb8. It's more memorable, period - important not only for getting back to that restaurant, but the URL architecture lends itself to intuiting how to get to other restaurants without having to use a search engine. Taking this a step further, I implemented a short URL at twavl.com, so <a href="http://go.twavl.com/elevenmadison" target="_blank">http://go.twavl.com/elevenmadison</a> not only gets you to Danny Meyer's noted Manhattan restaurant, but it makes sure important information is front and center, whether you are using a web browser or an iPhone. (When digging through all of this manure, there's got to be a pony somewhere...) On a more serious note Brooklyn has its own short URL – bk.ly. The problem is the designers copied bit.ly too closely without thinking about local info navigation. An example is that all of bk.ly's results are all hashes.

For example, when dealing with Brooklyn restaurant Rose Water, I argue bk.ly/rosewater is superior to bk.ly/bb8. It's more memorable, period – important not only for getting back to that restaurant, but the URL architecture lends itself to intuiting how to get to other restaurants without having to use a search engine.

Taking this a step further, I implemented a short URL at twavl.com, so http://go.twavl.com/elevenmadison not only gets you to Danny Meyer's noted Manhattan restaurant, but it makes sure important information is front and center, whether you are using a web browser or an iPhone.

(When digging through all of this manure, there's got to be a pony somewhere…)

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