Comments on: Glue and Comments

By: fiwedding

fiwedding — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:18:51 +0000

It's a difficult thing to listen to feedback from your initial users, the first 25,000, and do the opposite of what they recommend. You alienate your "support base" etc etc. Tough situation.

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By: Charlie

Charlie — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:58 +0000

I think this is a continual failure in the thinking of the tech elite versus the mainstream. The mainstream is pretty accepting of "broken" and "fractured". Me personally, every picture I've taken in the last few years goes to Flickr, but if you talk to regular people, they've got some on Snapfish, some on Facebook, some still stuck on their phone… some on their hard drive not even backed up. Same goes with the way teens use MySpace. They regularly delete profiles and start all over again, or just abandon and start anew. They don't "manage" multiple profiles the way some of the tech elite seem to want to.

Enterprise glue was valuable because the owner of the data could point to cost efficiencies and business intelligence that could be glean from more smoothly operating systems. For consumers, though, they just don't value each byte at the same level. Sure, there's scale, but living in a digital scattershot is pretty low on the list of painpoints for the average person.

By: PXLated

PXLated — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:54 +0000

"brings the overall conversation associated with my blog post back to my blog where I actually want it"
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Exactly. I don't want to chase the people I follow and the conversations they generate all over the universe. You're one of the first I've seen express this desire to consolidate. Everyone else send one elsewhere and I'm not following.

By: eddie_lebr12311

eddie_lebr12311 — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:54 +0000

That's a great feature for intensedebate. One question: with Facebook emulating FriendFeed's imported items commentary feature, will intensedebate (or Disqus) be able to pull those comments as well, or are they blocked by the Facebook wall?

By: bfeld

bfeld — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:54 +0000

Charlie – I disagree. If this is “invisible to the user” it will be a very happy thing. The idea that the mainstream is pretty accepting of “broken” and “fractured” is fine, but it’s accepting because it’s use to computers not working! For example, my mother – who is DEFINITELY part of the mainstream, would love her photos to just be “wherever she wants them” without having to think about it.

By: PhilW

PhilW — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:54 +0000

Just because the mainstream is resigned to having to make do with 'broken' and 'fractured' doesn't mean they like it.

By: tom

tom — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:54 +0000

Eddie, it's a great question. Integrating with Facebook is on our short list. (Any experienced Facebook developers want to help?)

In the long run, it will be self-defeating for Facebook to be a walled-garden. The new social web is open – which is part of the reason that IntenseDebate is all about integrating your "comment-like" content from everywhere, and making it available everywhere.

Tom
IntenseDebate

By: Emil Sotirov

Emil Sotirov — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:54 +0000

Say "loosely joined" instead of "broken" and "fractured"… and suddenly the mainstream "gets" the web better than the tech elite. I am pretty sure this is exactly the case – and the reason we have tons of new startups doing things to please the tech elite and destined to be failures with the mainstream.