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		<title>By: Jeff Fedor</title>
		<link>http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2008/04/modest-deals-happy-deals.html/comment-page-1#comment-8013</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Fedor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Rob who comments above, I am puzzled by sentiment like your friend&#039;s. Sadly it isn&#039;t isolated to him either.  &lt;br /&gt;
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In my book, anything above a 5X return isn&#039;t too shabby.  Now, I know managing a portfolio takes time and suddenly doubling the number of companies you can invest in is a blessing and a curse. So I can understand from a VC&#039;s perspective that if a company only potentially requires $5MM over its lifetime it does pose a challenge to the fund looking to place $5-10MM.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Other than that I really don&#039;t see what there is to be concerned about.. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Rob who comments above, I am puzzled by sentiment like your friend&#039;s. Sadly it isn&#039;t isolated to him either.  </p>
<p>In my book, anything above a 5X return isn&#039;t too shabby.  Now, I know managing a portfolio takes time and suddenly doubling the number of companies you can invest in is a blessing and a curse. So I can understand from a VC&#039;s perspective that if a company only potentially requires $5MM over its lifetime it does pose a challenge to the fund looking to place $5-10MM.  </p>
<p>Other than that I really don&#039;t see what there is to be concerned about.. </p>
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		<title>By: rob_freebor8945</title>
		<link>http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2008/04/modest-deals-happy-deals.html/comment-page-1#comment-8014</link>
		<dc:creator>rob_freebor8945</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the values of these deals aren&#039;t too high - how do the multiple&#039;s rank for what you are looking to do? &lt;br /&gt;
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In the case of Sphere they had taken in $3.5mm in two rounds (don&#039;t know % equity or valuations at these points) but at face value turning that investment into a $25mm buyout in ~ 2 yrs can&#039;t be too bad. &lt;br /&gt;
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Farecast, well, not as high of a multiple by taking ~ $20.6mm and tripling that.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The first thing I thought when reading your post was that there was a disconnect between the now common thread of &quot;build it faster, lighter, cheaper&quot; and the you&#039;re first measure of a sub $100mm deal being of modest size. In the end, isn&#039;t it the % return that counts the most? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the values of these deals aren&#039;t too high &#8211; how do the multiple&#039;s rank for what you are looking to do? </p>
<p>In the case of Sphere they had taken in $3.5mm in two rounds (don&#039;t know % equity or valuations at these points) but at face value turning that investment into a $25mm buyout in ~ 2 yrs can&#039;t be too bad. </p>
<p>Farecast, well, not as high of a multiple by taking ~ $20.6mm and tripling that.  </p>
<p>The first thing I thought when reading your post was that there was a disconnect between the now common thread of &quot;build it faster, lighter, cheaper&quot; and the you&#039;re first measure of a sub $100mm deal being of modest size. In the end, isn&#039;t it the % return that counts the most?</p>
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		<title>By: bfeld</title>
		<link>http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2008/04/modest-deals-happy-deals.html/comment-page-1#comment-8026</link>
		<dc:creator>bfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What matters (at least to me and the investors in our fund) is cash on cash return.  This then links back to fund size.  If a deal returns 3x and is 30% of the cash in the fund, then it&#039;s a big deal.  However, if it returns 3x and is 2% of the cash in the fund it&#039;s a nice, but modest deal.   &lt;br /&gt;
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As a result, the broad classifications of small, medium, big probably don&#039;t work well.  &quot;Modest&quot; in my book is sub-$100m, but I&#039;m always happy when I have a company that is acquired for any amount that generates a positive return! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What matters (at least to me and the investors in our fund) is cash on cash return.  This then links back to fund size.  If a deal returns 3x and is 30% of the cash in the fund, then it&#039;s a big deal.  However, if it returns 3x and is 2% of the cash in the fund it&#039;s a nice, but modest deal.   </p>
<p>As a result, the broad classifications of small, medium, big probably don&#039;t work well.  &quot;Modest&quot; in my book is sub-$100m, but I&#039;m always happy when I have a company that is acquired for any amount that generates a positive return!</p>
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		<title>By: bfeld</title>
		<link>http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2008/04/modest-deals-happy-deals.html/comment-page-1#comment-8027</link>
		<dc:creator>bfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My &quot;multiple&quot; thresholds are 1x-3x = good; 3x-5x = great; 5x-10x = superb; &gt;10x jumping up and down with delight.  And once you&#039;ve had a &gt;50x, you never look back. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My &quot;multiple&quot; thresholds are 1x-3x = good; 3x-5x = great; 5x-10x = superb; &gt;10x jumping up and down with delight.  And once you&#039;ve had a &gt;50x, you never look back.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Feld</title>
		<link>http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2008/04/modest-deals-happy-deals.html/comment-page-1#comment-44327</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Feld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My &quot;multiple&quot; thresholds are 1x-3x = good; 3x-5x = great; 5x-10x = superb; &gt;10x jumping up and down with delight.  And once you&#039;ve had a &gt;50x, you never look back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My &#8220;multiple&#8221; thresholds are 1x-3x = good; 3x-5x = great; 5x-10x = superb; >10x jumping up and down with delight.  And once you&#039;ve had a >50x, you never look back.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Feld</title>
		<link>http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2008/04/modest-deals-happy-deals.html/comment-page-1#comment-44326</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Feld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What matters (at least to me and the investors in our fund) is cash on cash return.  This then links back to fund size.  If a deal returns 3x and is 30% of the cash in the fund, then it&#039;s a big deal.  However, if it returns 3x and is 2% of the cash in the fund it&#039;s a nice, but modest deal.   &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
As a result, the broad classifications of small, medium, big probably don&#039;t work well.  &quot;Modest&quot; in my book is sub-$100m, but I&#039;m always happy when I have a company that is acquired for any amount that generates a positive return!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What matters (at least to me and the investors in our fund) is cash on cash return.  This then links back to fund size.  If a deal returns 3x and is 30% of the cash in the fund, then it&#039;s a big deal.  However, if it returns 3x and is 2% of the cash in the fund it&#039;s a nice, but modest deal.   </p>
<p>As a result, the broad classifications of small, medium, big probably don&#039;t work well.  &#8220;Modest&#8221; in my book is sub-$100m, but I&#039;m always happy when I have a company that is acquired for any amount that generates a positive return!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Fedor</title>
		<link>http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2008/04/modest-deals-happy-deals.html/comment-page-1#comment-44325</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Fedor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Rob who comments above, I am puzzled by sentiment like your friend&#039;s. Sadly it isn&#039;t isolated to him either.  &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
In my book, anything above a 5X return isn&#039;t too shabby.  Now, I know managing a portfolio takes time and suddenly doubling the number of companies you can invest in is a blessing and a curse. So I can understand from a VC&#039;s perspective that if a company only potentially requires $5MM over its lifetime it does pose a challenge to the fund looking to place $5-10MM.  &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
Other than that I really don&#039;t see what there is to be concerned about.. &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Rob who comments above, I am puzzled by sentiment like your friend&#039;s. Sadly it isn&#039;t isolated to him either.  </p>
<p>In my book, anything above a 5X return isn&#039;t too shabby.  Now, I know managing a portfolio takes time and suddenly doubling the number of companies you can invest in is a blessing and a curse. So I can understand from a VC&#039;s perspective that if a company only potentially requires $5MM over its lifetime it does pose a challenge to the fund looking to place $5-10MM.  </p>
<p>Other than that I really don&#039;t see what there is to be concerned about.. </p>
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		<title>By: Rob Freeborn</title>
		<link>http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2008/04/modest-deals-happy-deals.html/comment-page-1#comment-44324</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Freeborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the values of these deals aren&#039;t too high - how do the multiple&#039;s rank for what you are looking to do? &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
In the case of Sphere they had taken in $3.5mm in two rounds (don&#039;t know % equity or valuations at these points) but at face value turning that investment into a $25mm buyout in ~ 2 yrs can&#039;t be too bad. &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
Farecast, well, not as high of a multiple by taking ~ $20.6mm and tripling that.  &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
The first thing I thought when reading your post was that there was a disconnect between the now common thread of &quot;build it faster, lighter, cheaper&quot; and the you&#039;re first measure of a sub $100mm deal being of modest size. In the end, isn&#039;t it the % return that counts the most?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the values of these deals aren&#039;t too high &#8211; how do the multiple&#039;s rank for what you are looking to do? </p>
<p>In the case of Sphere they had taken in $3.5mm in two rounds (don&#039;t know % equity or valuations at these points) but at face value turning that investment into a $25mm buyout in ~ 2 yrs can&#039;t be too bad. </p>
<p>Farecast, well, not as high of a multiple by taking ~ $20.6mm and tripling that.  </p>
<p>The first thing I thought when reading your post was that there was a disconnect between the now common thread of &#8220;build it faster, lighter, cheaper&#8221; and the you&#039;re first measure of a sub $100mm deal being of modest size. In the end, isn&#039;t it the % return that counts the most?</p>
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