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		<title>By: Jonathan Chauncey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Chauncey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>because eventually someone will come up with something &quot;new&quot; that might not be obvious to start with and is useful simply because the technology is new. I mean 30 years ago a progress bar would absolutely fall under these &quot;prongs&quot;. But why should someone be able to patent a progress bar? &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because eventually someone will come up with something &quot;new&quot; that might not be obvious to start with and is useful simply because the technology is new. I mean 30 years ago a progress bar would absolutely fall under these &quot;prongs&quot;. But why should someone be able to patent a progress bar? </p>
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		<title>By: bfeld</title>
		<link>http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2008/02/the-momentum-behind-software-patent-reform-is-building.html/comment-page-1#comment-7459</link>
		<dc:creator>bfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well - count me in as one of the Nerds voting for eliminating software patents.  No one has ever mistaken me for a jock.   &lt;br /&gt;
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Your assertion that Myrvold&#039;s view is correct isn&#039;t substantiated by anything.  Myrvold has his own broad agenda which is multi-faceted.  I&#039;m not going to begin to try to fathom all of the pieces of it, nor am I willing to take the assertion at face value that since &quot;service sector inventors&quot; should be protected that means &quot;business method and software patents&quot; are valid forms of protection.  There are numerous other forms of protection for inventors in the service sector and - when you actually get under the dynamics of how patents are actually applied to business method / software patents - and the corresponding economic dynamics, one can quickly draw a different opinion. &lt;br /&gt;
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This isn&#039;t a debate that gets won with quick / pithy assertions.  The sounds bites - which I know I am participating in (e.g. &quot;abolish software patents&quot;) need real research and data to substantiate them.  There are an increasing number of nerds - like me - working on this. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well &#8211; count me in as one of the Nerds voting for eliminating software patents.  No one has ever mistaken me for a jock.   </p>
<p>Your assertion that Myrvold&#039;s view is correct isn&#039;t substantiated by anything.  Myrvold has his own broad agenda which is multi-faceted.  I&#039;m not going to begin to try to fathom all of the pieces of it, nor am I willing to take the assertion at face value that since &quot;service sector inventors&quot; should be protected that means &quot;business method and software patents&quot; are valid forms of protection.  There are numerous other forms of protection for inventors in the service sector and &#8211; when you actually get under the dynamics of how patents are actually applied to business method / software patents &#8211; and the corresponding economic dynamics, one can quickly draw a different opinion. </p>
<p>This isn&#039;t a debate that gets won with quick / pithy assertions.  The sounds bites &#8211; which I know I am participating in (e.g. &quot;abolish software patents&quot;) need real research and data to substantiate them.  There are an increasing number of nerds &#8211; like me &#8211; working on this.</p>
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		<title>By: PRoales</title>
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		<dc:creator>PRoales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a Anti-Software-Patent PAC I could donate to? </description>
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		<title>By: bfeld</title>
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		<dc:creator>bfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look for a formal announcement of the End Software Patents Coalition in the next few weeks. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look for a formal announcement of the End Software Patents Coalition in the next few weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An ex senior Yahoo executive - from year&#039;s ago - once said flatly &quot;If it&#039;s on the Internet, you can&#039;t protect it via patents.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An ex senior Yahoo executive &#8211; from year&#039;s ago &#8211; once said flatly &quot;If it&#039;s on the Internet, you can&#039;t protect it via patents.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: bfeld</title>
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		<dc:creator>bfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim - I think you just made the case!  Virtually all of the software patents that get issues don&#039;t pass these tests. Unfortunately, once the bad patent gets issued, it&#039;s a nightmare in both cost and time to invalidate it.   &lt;br /&gt;
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There are a different solutions to this - the most aggressive is just to eliminate software patents altogether.  I argue that eliminating software patents would enhance innovation in the software industry - whereas the current friction created by software patents today actually slows down innovation.  I give you the open source movement and a handy example of this. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim &#8211; I think you just made the case!  Virtually all of the software patents that get issues don&#039;t pass these tests. Unfortunately, once the bad patent gets issued, it&#039;s a nightmare in both cost and time to invalidate it.   </p>
<p>There are a different solutions to this &#8211; the most aggressive is just to eliminate software patents altogether.  I argue that eliminating software patents would enhance innovation in the software industry &#8211; whereas the current friction created by software patents today actually slows down innovation.  I give you the open source movement and a handy example of this.</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patent Reform is Revenge of the Jocks. &lt;br /&gt;
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The way Intel (with Sales Jock CEO) is talking, you would think that the patent Nerds are ruling over us like a rentier class in pre-revolutionary France. &lt;br /&gt;
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But if you check the Forbes Billionaires list, it seems nicely balanced between Tech Nerds (Dyson vacuums, Page and Brin), Finance Nerds (Buffett), and Sales Jocks (Blackstone&#039;s Schwarzman, Wal-Mart&#039;s Walton, etc.). &lt;br /&gt;
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In other words, Nathan Myrvold&#039;s view of the subject is entirely correct.  Inventors in the service service deserve the same protections as inventors in the farming and manufacturing sectors.  That means business method patents and software patents. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patent Reform is Revenge of the Jocks. </p>
<p>The way Intel (with Sales Jock CEO) is talking, you would think that the patent Nerds are ruling over us like a rentier class in pre-revolutionary France. </p>
<p>But if you check the Forbes Billionaires list, it seems nicely balanced between Tech Nerds (Dyson vacuums, Page and Brin), Finance Nerds (Buffett), and Sales Jocks (Blackstone&#039;s Schwarzman, Wal-Mart&#039;s Walton, etc.). </p>
<p>In other words, Nathan Myrvold&#039;s view of the subject is entirely correct.  Inventors in the service service deserve the same protections as inventors in the farming and manufacturing sectors.  That means business method patents and software patents.</p>
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		<title>By: jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you look at it from a practical standpoint-- well, its only practical for a large company. &lt;br /&gt;
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if youre a startup, writing a patent is time consuming and can be expensive. needless to say, you won&#039;t know if you officially have a patent until several years later. having an actual patent doesnt mean anything-- it has to hold up in court. if youre a startup, a large company will purposely infringe to dry up your cash, and distract you.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you look at it from a practical standpoint&#8211; well, its only practical for a large company. </p>
<p>if youre a startup, writing a patent is time consuming and can be expensive. needless to say, you won&#039;t know if you officially have a patent until several years later. having an actual patent doesnt mean anything&#8211; it has to hold up in court. if youre a startup, a large company will purposely infringe to dry up your cash, and distract you.</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the issue is more nuanced than either of our sound bites would suggest, let me suggest another possible solution:  In Illinois, the previous governor declared an indefinite moratorium on executions.  His reasoning was that the death penalty might be appropriate in the future, but that the number of innocents found on death row showed that the government (court system) was not yet up to the job.   &lt;br /&gt;
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So a moratorium on software patents until the patent office is up to the job.  You get nearly the same result but avoid offending property rights absolutists such as me. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the issue is more nuanced than either of our sound bites would suggest, let me suggest another possible solution:  In Illinois, the previous governor declared an indefinite moratorium on executions.  His reasoning was that the death penalty might be appropriate in the future, but that the number of innocents found on death row showed that the government (court system) was not yet up to the job.   </p>
<p>So a moratorium on software patents until the patent office is up to the job.  You get nearly the same result but avoid offending property rights absolutists such as me.</p>
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		<title>By: bfeld</title>
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		<dc:creator>bfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A moratorium is certainly a useful short term solution is stalling the problem.  However, I don&#039;t believe the PTO will ever be up for the job because of the fundamental invalidity of software patents in the first place.   &lt;br /&gt;
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One of the secondary effects of software patents that stifles innovation is the uncertainty surrounding the actual content, grant, and legitimacy of software patents.  I&#039;d be concerned that a moratorium actually exacerbates this problem. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A moratorium is certainly a useful short term solution is stalling the problem.  However, I don&#039;t believe the PTO will ever be up for the job because of the fundamental invalidity of software patents in the first place.   </p>
<p>One of the secondary effects of software patents that stifles innovation is the uncertainty surrounding the actual content, grant, and legitimacy of software patents.  I&#039;d be concerned that a moratorium actually exacerbates this problem.</p>
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