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	<title>Comments on: A CPM Here, A CPM There &#8230; Now You Are Talking Real Money</title>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The purpose of advertising is not always immediate sales.  Ad campaigns can have measurable goals that are distinct from online sales - including brand or product awareness, intent to buy, or perception of value.  These are long-term effects that move the needle, even if you don&#039;t measure it in clickthrough.  Given the audience of Facebook, that might be the most important use of their ad platform.  Read &quot;What Sticks&quot;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The purpose of advertising is not always immediate sales.  Ad campaigns can have measurable goals that are distinct from online sales &#8211; including brand or product awareness, intent to buy, or perception of value.  These are long-term effects that move the needle, even if you don&#8217;t measure it in clickthrough.  Given the audience of Facebook, that might be the most important use of their ad platform.  Read &#8220;What Sticks&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CPM isn&#039;t the goal - it&#039;s about the impression.

Through Facebook, I&#039;ve found tons of new bands thanks to iTunes giveaways, clicked around a few contests from sponsored folk, and so on. Have I actually BOUGHT a Jeep yet? No. Do I plan to later? Sure.

Try some of the sponsored groups versus the flyer ads and see what kind of return they get. :) They typically have very active communities if nothing else.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CPM isn&#8217;t the goal &#8211; it&#8217;s about the impression.</p>
<p>Through Facebook, I&#8217;ve found tons of new bands thanks to iTunes giveaways, clicked around a few contests from sponsored folk, and so on. Have I actually BOUGHT a Jeep yet? No. Do I plan to later? Sure.</p>
<p>Try some of the sponsored groups versus the flyer ads and see what kind of return they get. <img src='http://www.feld.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  They typically have very active communities if nothing else.</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be very surprised if any ads were ever very successful on Facebook.

They&#039;d have to be very very cool or for something that appeals to the main FB users - tweens/genY.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be very surprised if any ads were ever very successful on Facebook.</p>
<p>They&#8217;d have to be very very cool or for something that appeals to the main FB users &#8211; tweens/genY.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Feld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Feld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I expect that at least one of these ad networks will start placing meaningful numbers of ads in the next 30 days on Facebook apps.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expect that at least one of these ad networks will start placing meaningful numbers of ads in the next 30 days on Facebook apps.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Thylmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver Thylmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you have an example of a transactional banner that is working, I would be all ears. :) Your comment on the plentyoffish blog seems to have hinted at the fact that they are performing really well and if that includes people that also track the quality of resulting leads, then I am even more interested. :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you have an example of a transactional banner that is working, I would be all ears. <img src='http://www.feld.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Your comment on the plentyoffish blog seems to have hinted at the fact that they are performing really well and if that includes people that also track the quality of resulting leads, then I am even more interested. <img src='http://www.feld.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Thylmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver Thylmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, linking to The Paradigm Shift, conversion rates seem to be not so good from social networks: &lt;a href=&quot;http://plentyoffish.wordpress.com/2006/08/09/bebo-and-myspacecom-reality-check-based-on-436-test/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://plentyoffish.wordpress.com/2006/08/09/bebo-and-myspacecom-reality-check-based-on-436-test/&lt;/a&gt;

If we think further what Google has done, and what the internet enables, it&#039;s performance marketing. More and more advertisers are or will measure their conversions from traffic.

I buy the idea of interactions in the banners itself, but then the question becomes what the quality of the sign-ups are. People need to understand that they sign-up somewhere else.

I don&#039;t really see $15 CPM coming to Facebook at this time. Not anywhere. At least not over a meaningful amount of the traffic. Even at $1 CPM one might argue that a pay version of Facebook makes more sense, as I will likely not make more than 1000 impressions a month and will more likely pay $15 a year to have it ad free and a bit more features.

Google works because they make $60 CPM on searches, and that for a reason. Might be it&#039;s inflated now and only worth $40, but its worth that.

Oliver
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, linking to The Paradigm Shift, conversion rates seem to be not so good from social networks: <a href="http://plentyoffish.wordpress.com/2006/08/09/bebo-and-myspacecom-reality-check-based-on-436-test/" rel="nofollow">http://plentyoffish.wordpress.com/2006/08/09/bebo-and-myspacecom-reality-check-based-on-436-test/</a></p>
<p>If we think further what Google has done, and what the internet enables, it&#8217;s performance marketing. More and more advertisers are or will measure their conversions from traffic.</p>
<p>I buy the idea of interactions in the banners itself, but then the question becomes what the quality of the sign-ups are. People need to understand that they sign-up somewhere else.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really see $15 CPM coming to Facebook at this time. Not anywhere. At least not over a meaningful amount of the traffic. Even at $1 CPM one might argue that a pay version of Facebook makes more sense, as I will likely not make more than 1000 impressions a month and will more likely pay $15 a year to have it ad free and a bit more features.</p>
<p>Google works because they make $60 CPM on searches, and that for a reason. Might be it&#8217;s inflated now and only worth $40, but its worth that.</p>
<p>Oliver</p>
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