Progress On The Startup Visa Movement

Yesterday there was solid progress on the Startup Visa Movement – specifically making it easier for foreign entrepreneurs to start their companies in the US. The WSJ had a good summary article titled U.S. to Assist Immigrant Job Creators that discusses two formal communications from the Obama administration.

There are additional guidelines listed in detail at the following links.

I’ve been working on this issue since I wrote the post The Founders Visa Movement on 9/10/09 (all my posts can be seen in the category summary Startup Visa on my blog). A number of colleagues throughout the entrepreneurial community (entrepreneurs, angels, VCs) joined in on the effort as it became a formal grass-roots movement, resulting in several bills being drafted in Congress in 2010 and then 2011.

While I’ve learned a lot about politics, Congress, and how Washington works in the past two years, one thing that became painfully apparent to me was that Congress was completely stalled on anything related to immigration issues. While I’ve continued to view the Startup Visa as a jobs issue (we need more entrepreneurs in the US – anyone should be able to start a company here if they want to, and that creates jobs, which is good for our economy) that’s not how people in Washington see it (“visa” – that means “immigration”).

In parallel, a number of us have been talking to key people in the White House, including the amazing Aneesh Chopra, the White House CTO. Aneesh totally gets this issue as do a number of his colleagues in the White House and the Office of Science and Technology Policy and they’ve been working on non-legislative solutions that can be implemented with policy changes in USCIS. While the changes made yesterday don’t cover every case, they make a solid step in the right direction.

In the past six months, I’ve personally been involved in about ten cases of foreign entrepreneurs trying to get valid US visas so they could either start their company here or join a US-based company that they helped co-found. After being stymied for a variety of reasons, including extremely aggressive, negative, and inconsistent behavior at the border from U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officers, most of the folks I’ve been talking to and/or helping have been able to get visas. In all cases, they were willing to share their stories, in detail, with people on the White House staff, who I think have been extremely thoughtful and diligent about understanding what was going on, worked hard to figure out appropriate and legal solutions, and provided a constructive and empathetic ear to the very frustrated entrepreneurs.

I don’t feel comfortable naming names as most people are very concerned about confidentiality around immigration issues, but I’m proud of the efforts by many of these entrepreneurs. They didn’t give up, didn’t get angry even when they had plenty of reason to, and were willing to be very open with White House officials in trying to help figure out a more effective approach. I’m also very impressed with the folks at the White House and OSTP who I’ve been working with on this issue. The contrast between their efforts, thoroughness, and their “let’s solve the problem” vs. a “let’s be political” attitude is commendable.

There are plenty of additional things in the Startup Visa Movement that need to be addressed but I feel like we made some progress today. Thanks to everyone who has been involved – you are a force for good in the world.

  • Pemullen

    Why is the focus on attracting more entrepreneurs to start companies? We have enough startups and budding entrepreneurs who want to start companies. What we lack is pool of talent to staff all the openings the existing startups have.  They all need developers.  We have enough founders.  Every founder I’ve met is hiring developers, designers, etc.  

    • I strongly disagree. I don’t think it’s a zero sum game – it’s a long term dynamic and, as a country, we need to be as open to any entrepreneur as we can as we never know where the next Google is going to come from. In addition, if you take a 20 year view (which I do), we need to aggressively start focusing on building a long term pipeline to support the real entrepreneurial activity that is going to continue to drive our economy.
      Plus, I have a deep personal belief that an entrepreneur should be able to start a company wherever he or she wants. The US was built on immigrant entrepreneurs – if we want to maintain our leadership as a great country, we need to keep at it.

      • Pemullen

        The pipeline is already built and flowing, albeit choked by archaic immigration policy.  I meet brand new entrepreneurs from yet another country at every local SF tech event I attend and that’s 6-10 a week.  My point was to emphasize what I see as a greater immediate need.  It was not brought up in your post.  I agree on your points about taking the longer term view and fully support the government taking off it’s restrictions around the Startup Visa movement.

      • Pemullen

        The pipeline is already built and flowing, albeit choked by archaic immigration policy.  I meet brand new entrepreneurs from yet another country at every local SF tech event I attend and that’s 6-10 a week.  My point was to emphasize what I see as a greater immediate need.  It was not brought up in your post.  I agree on your points about taking the longer term view and fully support the government taking off it’s restrictions around the Startup Visa movement.

      • I’m with Brad on this one- why in the world wouldn’t we want more entrepreneurship here? I can’t think of a single reason to discourage the best and brightest from coming here to work and start companies. And a healthy environment of of innovation attracts more talent like developers and engineers- they want people competing for them!
        I think the salient point Brad makes is the irrational knee jerk responses to anything regarding immigration. With the exception of Native Americans we are all descendants of immigrants. Immigrants tend to be driven to succeed- otherwise they wouldn’t pull up stakes to come here.

      • I like your 20 year view, Brad. If only the politicians had the same view, instead of forever worrying about getting re-elected, I’m guessing a lot of the world’s problems would disappear.
        I’m a serial entrepreneur in the UK and would love to start my new business in the USA, but it is just too hard right now. This will be my 5th business, so I know what I’m doing. I just hope that the US government can see that welcoming people like me will be “a good thing”, as I’d bring my wealth with me, and invest in jobs, property, schools, etc.

  • Ant

    Hey Brad thanks for the update and for your involvement in this. As a founder who was issued an approved L1 Visa for my venture backed startup only to have it rejected at the US embassy in London because the officer didn’t understand our company, I really appreciate your efforts!
    Am applying again under an H1B as the L1 is ‘under review’ for up to 6 months.
    If you need any more case studies let me know…

    • Send me an email ([email protected]) and I’ll hook you up with the folks in the White House that are working on this.

  • Brad,

    Thanks so much for your work in this area.  

    I am an immigrant from Brazil and I can personally attest to how crucial this work is.  I spent much of my undergraduate years at UC Berkeley engineering worrying that if I tried to become an entrepreneur straight out of school, I would probably be kicked out of the country.  I had an H4 child-dependent-visa at that point (my mom had an H1, working as biomedical scientist at UCSD), and the road forward was limited to 1) snagging an H1B at a big company or 2) trying to get an F1 for graduate school. 

    I wish I could have spent that energy thinking about startups instead.  I was lucky to receive a green card in my senior year (thanks to mom, again!), and it’s hard to overstate how important lifting that burden was in enabling me to focus on engineering and entrepreneurship.  

    I hope that folks like Pemullen realize that immigrants like me are not here to steal any jobs, we are here because we believe in creating value and building something meaningful with our lives, and the United States is (still) the best place in the world to do this.  People who aren’t as motivated (and want to capture value instead of creating it) don’t bother to immigrate to a far away land where they don’t have friends or family, don’t speak the language, and basically have to work twice as hard to accomplish anything.  Not that we are complaining, but take a look at the immigrant founders of companies like Google and Ebay, which have created billions of dollars in value and employed millions of people (direct and indirectly), and realize that it’s a good thing for all Americans that they did this here.

    -Marcio von Muhlen, PhD

  • reloronald

    Brad, this is a great initiative. I went through the EB-5 bureaucracy myself, which took a full 7 years before I finally had a green card in hand (1997-2004). The entrepreneurial, can-do spirit of America is what attracted me to come here with the intention of starting/investing in a new business.  While I believed in the system and never gave up, the time and expense I went through was a rather sobering experience.

    After this detour and some recovery time (i.e. needing a job, rather than creating them!), I am excited to be working on a new Seattle tech startup today.


    • Awesome that you stuck with it and hung in there.

  • Brad, how can we help more? I’ve sent mail to the UCIS to appreciate in their public engagement meeting, but are there any other ways to get involved?

    I’m an Australian building a startup in San Francisco. While getting visas isn’t too hard for australians, it’s a bugbear of mine that founders have to pay themselves “market rate” in order to qualify for a visa. It should be relatively obvious that a founder only needs a small salary (or no salary, if she can afford it). Our reward comes when we win.

    • The best way to help is (a) make a bunch of noise about this and (b) be ready to mobilize when things heat up in Congress again. We’ll do all calls to action on

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  • Anonymous

    I’m totally supportive of this movement. I’m a semi-entrepreneur based in Japan and have been thinking about the structural as well as fundamental difference(s) between the US and Japan from entrepreneurial standpoint for many years.

    One significant difference is the entrepreneurs outside the US, which of course includes Japan, don’t have access to the large community of VCs. While it’s true there is an argument that every startup should ever need VCs or not, I’ve seen dozens of startups which may have grown and succeeded if they had access to the VCs who could understand their potential and invest in them.

    In other words, this movement may potentially open a door to those may-have-succeeded startups, invite them to the US and help them succeed with support from VCs. Needless to say, they create more jobs in the US.

  • Halleluiah!!

    • I think there are a number of things in the Startup Visa bill that we should (and will) continue to push for. I think the White House went as far as they could go without legislative activity. However, we still need to do a number of things in the bill, including visas for graduating students that want to start a company.

      • Brad — but cannot students on F-1 visas just apply for a change of status as advanced degree holders while in the US? F-1 used to be extensible beyond course of study for up to 1 year, which is enough time for a new application to be processed even after graduation. Is there anything in procedure that makes it impossible?

        PS. Just bought your book on Kindle as a gift to my student cofounder – as a textbook. Reads even better than the TS post series! Pls accept a virtual handshake.

        • I think you only get an additional year on the F-1.

          • You mean a J-1 requires you to leave? Surprisingly, it depends. J-1 holders told me that at  admission (in an airport) the border officers actually write the restrictions on entry stamp, and if the restrictions are not written down, then there are no restrictions. Absolutely no idea how this is determined but this is the situation.

            Most of the students that are potential startup founders are likely to be PHD, MA/MS, MBA or the like, and quite unlikely to have any US Government aid (which is a most typical cause of J-1). So in most cases a prospective founder should be able  to get through. Mb you could present to USCIS director a case for further procedure optimization once they call you to the public task force they promise to set up? I’m sure you are very likely to be on it. 

  • Really appreciate all the hard work you and the other startup visa movement have done to make this a reality. Excellent news!

  • Brad,
    I applaud your efforts to help keep the US as a place people of all nations look to as the place to go and be if you want to be an entrepreneur.

    I’ve been thinking about an idea to help all entrepreneurs of all nations who start a company in the US.  I call the idea  “Startup Medicare” and I’m curious what you think.

    A big challenge for startups looking for top talent is being able to afford healthcare for employees in the bootstrap/seed stage. 

    I think it would be great for innovation in this country if there was a Medicare-like healthcare program sponsored by the federal government that allowed startup entrepreneurs to apply for and get a form of medicare coverage for founders, their employees and their families?

    The minute a 25 to 35 year old hot SW engineer and his/her spouse have a child he/she suddenly is limited in his/her ability to work at or found him/herself an early stage startup. 

    If seed stage startups that have yet to raise more than $1M or $2M could have their founders and employees qualify for this “Startup Medicare” it would instantly grow the population of people with the flexibility to found or work at a startup.



    • I haven’t seen health insurance be a barrier yet. The PEO’s – like Trinet and Administaff – do a great job of helping manage health care costs for startups through their broad aggregation of payors. So – I’m not sure this would be a huge opportunity, but I’m happy to be challenged on this.

      • I’ll have to check into Trinet and Administaff and see what the pricing looks like. Are they non-profit companies? I am skeptical in either case that they can get as powerful leverage on pricing as a gov program like Medicare. 

        I’m guessing that “StartupCare” program as part of Medicare could be created the pricing leverage would be better. Plus with Medicare the goal would not be to make a net profit off the monthly premiums paid by the startup workers, as it is with “for profit” aggregators.  

        I’m a believer that the health metrics of a society are crucial to it’s continued existence and progress and that anything this fundamental should not be a “for profit” industry. 

        To me healthcare is like roads, water, police, fire, schools, defense in that they are too important to the sustainability of a large advanced society leave in the hands of “for profit” entities where human greed can screw things up. 

        Perhaps entrepreneurship and innovation are also in that category? I can envision a model where people with the entrepreneurship bug could engage with non-profit entities whose aim is to help our most innovative citizens start companies without the overhead of a profit motive for the entities that provide seed capital.

        I think “Pell” grants and/or low interest gov backed loans for qualified seed stage entrepreneurs would help society innovate faster around the giant ecological disaster we are headed for now.

        I wrote about a program I have envisioned that would address this need in a balanced way here….

        If you like it I would love to present it to influential elected representatives or administration officials

        • They are for profit but have similar purchasing power to a Fortune 1000 company.

          • Take a look at the link to the “Civilian Innovation Corps” link if you get a chance. I’d be interested in your thoughts on the idea. Cheers, Roger

          • I read through it. I’m not totally sure how the CIC addresses the issue you raise at the beginning. I had a hard time understanding what the money was actually going toward or why it is needed.

          • Re: Medicare for Startups being original point.

            Yeah with the CIC link I pivoted into the broader general topic of how we can grow innovation and entrepreneurship with public/private partnership that expands the opportunities for more people to start or work in startups.

            The desired outcome of CIC being a order of magnitude increase in the number and quality of startup companies being started; thereby accelerating our ability to identify and create new wealth and job generating industries in the US.

            I think I am pretty specific in the essay on CIC on where the money would come from and how it would be used…. From the essay…

            “Each CIC team would seek a limited initial “venture fund” of anywhere from $10K to $200K depending on the nature of the venture concept. This money would be a mix of CIC government grant money and private money invested in the CIC ecosystem by private equity investors. The initial money would not be used for salaries for team members but only for operations costs. The participants would however get basic, and free, healthcare coverage provided by the CIC.”

            I go into more detail on how funding develops after this “seed” stage of getting funding.
            Many countries subsidize their large companies to innovate and grow markets. I’m just proposing that we build a performance based model to do the same thing except with a focus on encouraging small and startup companies to innovate versus large companies.

            23 years ago I was involved in reviewing an approving phase 1 proposals to US Navy Research for SBIR (Special Business Innovative Research) grants to companies responding to RFPs in areas of new technology solutions needed by the Navy.

            CIC is basically a modified SBIR innovation acceleration model on steroids and with a much broader coverage than specific technologies needed for defense purposes.

            Let me know if you still don’t see what I’m driving at with the CIC model. 

            I’m always looking to improve and advance how we as a society innovate and make progress toward a better world for all. Seems like we can improve significantly over the current model of funding innovation. 

            The current model is a pretty closed-door approach to providing opportunities for more people to get involved in the work of innovation and entrepreneurship.

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  • Anton Volkov

    I should say thank you to everyone who was involved to make this happen. That’s just happen at the time my view was rejected. Right now I have to figure it out how to use this to join my co-founder in US.  

  • Awesome update and kudos to you and everyone working on this for all your hard work!

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  • Brad, people like you make it worthwhile the everyday fight for foreigners in the US

  • Pissedoffengineer

    The problem with this is that once again the American engineer gets screwed! Rich foreigners will simply set up small businesses in the U.S. under the guise of “entrepreneurship” and bring in all their family and friends and boatloads of low-wage engineers.  They abused the H1B program, so why wouldn’t they abuse this? Of course the piggy VCs don’t care because in their minds the less you pay engineers the better.

  • Pissedoffengineer

    Or here’s an even better idea.  Lets give instant citizenship to any foreigner who wants to be a VC or who sets up a VC shop in the U.S.!! Then we would have many many more VCs funding more companies and looking for good ideas.  Let’s get as many VCs as possible into this country! How do you like that idea Brad???

  • Pissedoffengineer

    Or here’s an even better idea.  Lets give instant citizenship to any foreigner who wants to be a VC or who sets up a VC shop in the U.S.!! Then we would have many many more VCs funding more companies and looking for good ideas.  Let’s get as many VCs as possible into this country! How do you like that idea Brad???

  • Alan Pampanin

    Your blog is excellent. I like your take on USCIS. In reading the FAQ and the recently published transcript of Mayorkas’ statement on August 2, it is pretty clear that the H-1B visa remains inadequate for entrepreneurs. The employer/employee relationship enunciated in regulations and in the infamous Neufeld Memo of Jan. 2010 remains intact. The allowance for sole entrepreneurs to file H-1Bs for “themselves” as long as there is a BoD (which was articulated in the Neufeld Memo) may help a certain percentage of start-ups, but not that many. Most of the foreign entrepreneurs I represent are ready to roll but have not gotten to the stage of selecting a BoD. Further, payment of the prevailing wage is still required and is  a serious limitation. I hope the announcement is a harbinger of a more liberal treatment of start-up H-1Bs because I totally agree that Congress is not going to create a start-up visa.

  • I didn’t get an american visa four days ago. The embassy said that “I haven’t enough ties to my country (Venezuela). So I want to introduce an startup project on Europe. If someone have an advice, I will appreciate it.

  • Brad, Thanks for pushing this. I have been watching the progress of this issue. I am currently on a H1-B and planning to bootstrap a company. I am not taking any investor money and using my own as seed fund.

    Can i do it? Would it jeopardize my status in the USA?

    • You’ll need to talk to an immigration lawyer at it will be very specific to your situation and I don’t know enough to comment on it.

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